DL: What do you think about the treaties?
MC: They’re not worth the paper they were written on. It’s really sad because our people, they meant so much to us; unlike today where everybody writes out their speeches and stuff. Of course there’s a lot of litigation if you speak wrong, but even back then the white leaders, they had prepared speeches and different things, and the Native people, they didn’t need speeches; they spoke from the heart. Like I mentioned earlier, we didn’t own the lands, they belonged to everybody, and so we were willing to share with others. And it was used against us; the generosity was used against us.