DL: Do you have family members that lived through that time that you’re aware of?
BA: Yes, Chief Red Iron. And I didn’t learn about him until my forties when we were working on a family tree on my dad’s side. He lived in this area and up in Lac qui Parle. They moved back and forth. My great-grandpa married his daughter, Emma Red Iron. What I heard is that most of the other natives around this area felt that he wasn’t very effective as a chief. And I thought well, he was still a chief, so he must have been effective somehow. But he didn’t want to fight; he wanted to get things resolved. He wanted to prevent any kind of conflict. I think that’s where [my parents] got that understanding from.